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News Round-up
The Hull Daily Mail is reporting that the deal for Curtis Davies to move to newly-promoted Hull City is close to completion. The Leytonstone-born stopper, who signed for Blues for £3.5mil in January 2011 is apparently close to a deal that will see him sign for the Tigers for a fee reported to be in the region of £2.25mil.
However, the newspaper goes on to report that any deal to bring Jack Hobbs to Blues from Hull is separate to the Davies transfer and will only happen if Blues can agree a fee for the young centre-half.
MLSsoccer.com reports that Jonathan Spector has turned down a potential move to the top flight to stay with Blues. According to the American-based site, Spector is anxious to get first team playing time to ensure he makes the USA team for the World Cup in Brazil next year, and feels that he will get this by remaining at Blues.
Former trialist The0 Bailey-Jones has signed for Wrexham on a six month deal. The winger, who spent the last month of last season on trial at Blues made a couple of appearances for the Development Squad but evidently didn’t do enough to merit a contract with Blues.
Tags: Curtis Davies, Jack Hobbs, Jonathan Spector, Theo Bailey-Jones
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A bit disappointed that we can only get Hobbs on loan. Sick of the sight of loanees tbh, but, it’s the sign o’ the times I suppose. I hope we can sign at least 1 centre back permanently.
I’ll believe the Davies transfer when I see it, but £2.25m WITHOUT Hobbs is a low figure IMHO. Hobbs should always have been the makeweight to ensure we have a quality replacement.
I’ve also heard that the ‘fee’ that we need to agree for Hobbs is actually a loan one, and he will not join us permanently this window – despite being out of contract at the end of the coming season.
Absolutely agree. The fee should be around £3-3.5m without Hobbs. £2.25 with Hobbs would have been fair enough, because I believe Hobbs will be better than Davies. But, what exactly is the going rate for a 28-yo Championship centre back?
it was noted by Dan we might to lucky to get 1.5mil for Davis, so it depends how you look at it……Davis had a good season for blues imo i thought maybe 3 to 4 mil was reasonable, with hobb’s throw in maybe he’s worth mil…… again blues need to stand their ground until they get what they want, not the other way around……..imo
Blues need the money and Davies only has a year left anyway and doesnt want to stay. Hull – well how many defenders do they need after signing the Wiagn defender as well have surplus defenders. If we dont get Hobbs its a blow but we didnt get Caddis either and still got an adequate replacement
I agree with much of what you say- but I am yet to be convinced on the replacement (Eardley) being good enough. He may be, but without seeing him play I thought Ambrose and Lovenkrands sounded good signings. So lets see…
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-defender-curtis-davies-4694918? sorry to say but this deal might be completed until next week. Bcfc needs to stand its ground if hull are desperate for Davis, blues need continue the hard ball game regarding Hobb’s…….why should we lose out ???? imo……
We need someone else to join the bidding. At the moment, it seems only Hull have made a “firm” offer. If Hull think Davies is talking to another club(s), they might get their arses into gear and stop taking the piddle.
Is there any indication Hobbs would drop back down into the championship after playing a big part helping Hull achieve promotion? Having said that, the fee Birmingham are accepting for Davies should have included Hobbs otherwise why not take up the Norwich player plus fee offered back in January? Having said that, Birmingham need the cash and lets hope its enough to tie the club over until January and are then able to hold onto Redmond until January at least. The only way to stop this selling travesty is for the owners to sell the club, im convinced Carson wants to hold onto the club and whilst he cannot put money in, selling players is the only way in the hope he gets a not guilty verdict before resuming his role.
andy – yours comments may not be far off the mark……….
Andy selling for a worse deal than offered may not be as daft as it sounds, I mean look at the great business we did for Butland. We got £2.5m less than offered 4 months later…. Don’t rule out our odd moves based on sound logic.
http://www.tiredandweary.co.uk/2013/06/21/hull-taking-blues-to-the-cleaners/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=hull-taking-blues-to-the-cleaners
absolutely bloody right………….stand your ground bcfc……………..
I can’t agree – he’s not worth more than £2.3mil in my eyes. He’s got one year left on his deal and Blues are in a tight spot financially. It’s not good, but it’s the way it is.
To say that £2.25m is half what he’s worth isn’t really that accurate. He’s worth no more than what we paid for him tbh. To get £4m would be good, but surprising. I reckon £3m without Hobbs, or £2.25 with Hobbs would suit us better. I said yesterday that giving us a low price for Davies AND expecting us to pay a loan fee for Hobbs is really pushing it. They can do one as far as I’m concerned. Let’s hope Norwich come knocking again.
We should not give our resources away cheaply, but we must remember that Davies could not command his place in a poor Championship team a few games into last season. 2.25million is disappointing but it is not surprising. As far as fans are concerned it may be a non consideration as we do not understand the consequences of player sales. It could simply result in more pocket expenses for our illustrious one.
As for Redmond… does anyone really think he’ll still be here come August? I’d be surprised.
Not a chance!
I am afraid I agree with everyone else Dan. Hull are just legging us up on this one. If we needed the money that bad why didn’t we sell our player of the year in January for more money? Hobbs clearly doesn’t want to come, hence the loan deal, I would rather look elsewhere for loanee’s that do want to play for us. Stand firm I say!
If we couldn’t afford £250k for Caddis on a perm then how we going to afford the loan fee for Hobbs? Apart from Zigic we must now have the lowest wage bill in the championship, so why with the parachute payment (that more than covers Zigic’s wages) most other clubs don’t have, are we so desperate for money? We’ve almost sold the future as well, especially when Redmond has gone, so whats left to sell?
This has made up my mind on Season Tickets I’m afraid, my £1200 is staying in my pocket until we have new owners! I’m not throwing it into the same black hole taht every other penny is disappearing into, as much as it hurts.
I cannot agree with your logic. Just because we’ve turned down a bid in the past, it doesn’t mean we will not accept less in the future. As an example, we turned down £6mil from Southampton for Jack Butland and then sold him to Stoke City for £3.5mil 4 months later.
As for the lowest wage bill in the Championship – it’s lower than last year certainly, but I still think it’s one of the bigger ones there is.
Can’t see what all the fuss is about-Davies and Redmond will go and we fans are unlikely to get to know the details of the deals anyway.
I’m not a Clark fan but what he’s having to put up with at he moment is appalling and he has my respect .
Pannu and the rest of his cronies should be ashamed but I’m sure he’s not -his salary and perks will not be affected.The club could continue like this for another 12 months so be prepared for more bad news.
Totally agree Art. Davies wasn’t that brilliant last season. A dodgy start to the season and he only improved when Robinson was along side him to mop up his errors. I feel too many are looking at Davies through rose tinted glasses. KRO
Not rose tinted but I look at it this way. Once he had a half decent performer with him he is a sound player. A friend of mine who is a Villa fan always said he is brilliant when with a communicator and I think that is what happened last year. Maybe the team picked up when his perfomances did too. I think he is influential.
We need afresh start if we dont sell then its admin, all ST sales goes to the fat controller he will sell the white paint used for the lines next
Tony in respect to you saying we should go into admin, we not in debt and we still paying wages so I cant see this happening. As for selling Davies for £2.3 million I know we fans wanted more but look at it my way £25,000 a week = £1.3 millon a season were saving roughly
Personally I buy a season ticket because I like watching Birmingham City. Unlike Mortonsblue, for me it is not really affected by how the owners spend my money. By and large an owner spends far more money on a club than they get back from it and I believe Carson Yeung is no different in this respect.
Good point but at the moment the owners are bleeding the club dry!
Looking at it that way, Turn Blue, you’re right.
You’re not paying your money for the owners to pocket… you’re paying your money to watch the team play every home game. In that respect, you’re getting what you’ve paid for. What the owners do, or don’t do with that moeny is their business… however much it makes the blood boil.
Turn Blue I buy season tickets because I support my team and enjoy watching decent competitive football in the vain hope that we will see success one day. That day was 27 February 2011, since then the football club has been literally demolished, firstly by the manager, then by the owner and the elusive Peter Pannu who has sucked the club dry both personally with his exorbitant wages and consultancy fees and on behalf of CY. What has happened over the last 2 and a bit years has broken my heart, knocked the stuffing out of me and after 50 years watching the club home and away, enough is enough, I need some happoiness in my life and all I can see at Blues at the moment is depressing. I will always support Blues and no other but until there is a new owner with new hope that’s it for me I’m afraid.
Yout not on your own my friend, we will not average more than about 12/15,000 next season so there is about 15,000 just like you and me btw who have had enough after 50 yrs or so. It is sad but its okay for the younger fans to carp on about true your club needs you, but i will not line Pannu`s pocket just like the other 15,000 wont either.
Don’t worry we will keep YOU informed by the fans who do go, and DAN’S blog. And know doubt all you lot will come on here moaning intermittently so where no surprises there …………sorry if i am over harsh…sometimes reality kicks in…………blame culture ………..wonder who we can blame next time oh it was sullivan and gold brothers before………if you don’t want go so bloody what….whats your choice….. me i can wait for the season to start…by way can’t wait to wear the new home kit WITH PRIDE……. all bluenoses that are in here we come…….. talk of admin do me A FAVOUR GET YOURSELF A LIFE……………KRO
Through joys AND sorrows too. Journey on….. Hmmm.
lettin davis go 4 less than paid wen es a much better player than wen he arrived is madness
comment edited – no need for racism whatsoever
WELL-DONE Dan this was kicked out of football as well…………
Sorry ti say but davies is a donkey and 2.5mill for a donkey is good value for money.
I would take a loanee for a year and make 2.5 million. Just enough time for some one to buy us and pysh the money back into club.
A donkey? Get real.
People can buy their season tickets, knowing full well where the money will go if they please, thats freedom of choice.
Personally I’m not and will mainly follow Blues away this season.
Certainly DO NOT buy any merchandise or programmes though.
Lets keep the haemorrage of money out of the club to a minimum.
Tracy so where does it end, when we are in the conference? Sell everything I dont think so.
There will always be a hardcore of slightly intoxicated people who enjoy the smell of the burgers who will turn up and thats what the fat controller banks on.
This could go on for years we should make a stand ADMIN I for one am not overly concerned about jobs of staff its painful but for the greater good.
Tony we as fans are all very angry with the owners, has I said early I cant see us going to admin
1) paying wages 2) not in Debt 3) last of para money + these sales, season tickets etc etc
for me Tony be very interesting next season when theres no para and no saleable assets left what they will do then, Im not against anyone who don’t want to give there hard earned cash to these guys its total up to you
we are talking silly again, lets bring up the subject admin again, stuff the consequence of admin,and of the lovely staff who perilously work for bcfc……………he who does not care, has no feeling, and wanted tesco building……you are a great testament on behalf bcfc… yeah right.. Firstly accept you have no influence regarding pp or carson, but if you happy blowing hot air, carry my son……just to let you know it has not change a thing……….
Tony, i’d be sad to see people at the club lose their jobs.
The ONE person I want out is Pannu, who has done more damage to this club than anyone else in its history and that includes Hermann Georing’s bombs.
Now you are being bloody stupid again..Read your History and you will see that there are far more worthy candidates for that title..
Sorry, I should have said ‘Silly’ instead of ‘Stupid’, I didn’t mean the insult.
Whoever is going to be sold, we can’t do anything about it, as much as it rankles. So, I’m more concerned about who we’re going to bring in, seeing as we’re only 3 days away from the players reporting back. The longer the players have together, the better their understanding of each other and the tactics formations we’ll be using this season.
It’s going to be a bit sh*te if it’s left until the last minute, like last year. And we all know how well that worked out don’t we?
Just change the name to TRAMPS FC cos that’s what it feels like, sick of this crap
Typical of BCFC at the moment should hold out for a better deal, Agree I’m also sick of loan players deffo would not budge on this unless hobbs is part of the deal as a permanent player…
But we hold no chips at this table I’m afraid…
Starving the club of money will bring forward an early sale because Pannu will not allow the club to go in to administration.
Hell would you kill the golden goose that lays your eggs…
Think you are right Art.
It all revolves around the corpulent ‘no show’ merchant.
Something needs to happen to force their hand.
They will not sell whilst they think theres some more money to be ‘had’.
Quite agree Steve,
Understandably there are those who’s passion and loyalty would not wish to take this route but under the current circumstances I believe it’s the only way forward as PP would not wish to lose anymore money by going in to administration.
Yes–this golden egg stopped laying eggs a long time ago and they are just a bunch of bad apples at the bottom of a deep barrel.
Any chance we can take that barrel across the pond and kinda drop it off at or over Niagara falls with a label not known at this address…
A few points:
1) If Davies truly is a donkey, then it says a lot about what we have here as he’s our player of the season – didn’t he also get into the team voted for by his peers? I would readily take the point that Davies isn’t brilliant, but he is a good Championship/bottom half of Prem CH and I think Hull are getting a good deal at the level being quoted.
2) Taking another couple of points made earlier, we might get more if someone else bids; secondly, £2.25m, plus a saving of c£1.3m on wages, represents a good deal for BCFC in the present circumstances.
3) Pannu and co are playing a risky game in selling all the ‘saleable assets’ we have; it will reduce, to some extent, the value of the club still further both in terms of the balance sheet and, potentially, if we were to get relegated [I don’t think we will, in fact I’m reasonably optimistic, especially if we can get two good CH’s in place]. CY/PP are now in ‘survival’ mode, they are necessarily thinking like business men, not like us fans and they will do whatever they can to optimise the return on their investment [or at least reduce their loss]. If they keep us and we do not go up, then selling a Championship club with no more parachute payments and perhaps reduced assets is going to cost even more.
4) I’m with Turn Blue; I’ve renewed for me and my Son. A buyer needs also to see the potential and there’s more value in bigger crowds; but, above all else, I want to go and see the team play and am happy to pay my money for that privelege. If I’m playing into PP’s hands, then so be it; it’s the law of unintended consequences!
T,F,P;, very well constructed peice, mate, !!.
Like it or not , [ and most of us do not, !! ], We are where we are, !!.
Regards Davies, — We are over a barrel, 1,yr left on his contract, — We, are desperate for cash to keep us afloat, !!. — AND every other club out there — Knows it, !!!.
Probably agree with most of the comments.
Doesn’t surprise me that fans are renewing, we have some amzingly loyal fans and they should be congratulated for that, they deserve much more.
Can’t agree with almajir however that we ‘have one of the larger wage bills in the chamionship’.
Yes zigic is a stand out but otherwise smaller teams like Ipswich and Watford would dwarf our outgoing column, would put us somewhere alongside Burnley or Charlton.
No-one excpt Pannu though knows the TRUE figures.
Ah the elusive Mr Pannu………..I think they know CY is going down and the HK authorities will seize all assets and liquidate them, so they have no interest in the value of the club being further diminished, get what you can before it all goes ‘tits up’ seems to be the motto!
It just shows one thing to me, they have never EVER intended to sell this club and if we are still selling players then then there aint a buyer in sight. If you love the club so much then in my opinion we need to be cruel to be kind ,so to speak and stay away, cus if not Pannu will just keep laughing his way to the bank with his cash cow in tow.
I think taking Hobbs on loan would be more sensible than buying him. He was out for 8 months last yeat with Anterior Cruciate ligament injury. Also he is out of contract in the summer of 2014 so we would get him on a Bosman all being well.
Yes i understand our financial restraints but i Personally do not think that if we didn’t sell Davis we would go bump Do You….
That is more so our owners brain washing us we would still survive as a club with Davis.redmond still on the books this time next year…
Althought not tested yet, at this moment, Jack Hobbs is a Premier League defender and would probably fetch anywhere between £1-2m… Curtis Davies isn’t, he’s a Championship defender and would probably only fetch £2-2.5m… 3m tops. If it wasn’t for needing the money, I’d take a million plus Hobbs.
I know he’s had an injury, but he seems fine now, as attested to by a Hull fan the other day. And Davies isn’t without his injuries either. How many times did his ankle go last season? At one point, he seemed to be injured every game.
At the end of the day, we’ll probably sell Davies and Redmond for a total of £5-6m. I can see Mr Pannu rubbing his hands with glee at that, but I don’t think Lee Clark would be smiling.
Curtis has played 83 of Blues’ last 92 league games so not exactly injury prone.
Hobbs is a different type defender to Davies……Hobbs is bigger stronger slower more solid than Davies………..Davies is more athletic,skillful and scores more goals than Hobbs…….Also Hobbs is 3 years,5 months and 3 days younger than Davies.
Don’t recall saying Davies was injury prone. I said he wasn’t without injuries. I also said at one period, he appeared to be injured every game. I would say he’s most likely got an ankle weakness, for it to go that often. Even with all that, I didn’t call him injury prone. Just because Hobbs had a long lay off, I wouldn’t call him injury prone either.
Hull have got us by the boll-x. Unfortunately Pannu has extremely small boll-x
He will take the 2.25m or whatever it is and we move on, I will be very angry if Redmond goes and feel the fan backlash could finally be the straw the broke the camels back so to speak.
You can push blues fans so far but.there comes a point when we have to fight back.
This bloke won’t haggle!!!!!