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Gossip Folks – The Transfer Rumour Mill (Winter 2013 Edition) Week Two

We’re almost halfway through the January transfer window and as yet Birmingham City have yet to do any business either inwards or outwards. This hasn’t stopped the rumours from flowing and there does seem to be some more solid action that points to potential departures in the next week.

As always, I have updated the spreadsheet here with stuff I have seen around this week. The big story was that Nottingham Forest have made a proper bid for Chris Burke that was apparently in the region of £300,000 which was rejected by Blues. Forest, who are now managed by Alex McLeish who of course brought Burke to St Andrews are expected to come back in for the Scottish winger and it’s my personal belief that they will sign him sooner or later.

There has also been a firm enquiry for Jake Jervis, backing up one of last week‘s tweets from James Nursey. Turkish side Elazigspor, who lie 16th in the Turkish Superlig, three points from safety having lost to Sivasspor this weekend have apparently offered 50,000 euros for the 21-year-old striker and now Jake has to make the choice of whether to move to Turkey to continue his professional career. The club have seemingly confirmed that they are open to offers for the young striker and I think it’ll be a matter of time before he’s taken on by someone.

However, I think that the big business of this window is still to come. I’m of the belief that Blues will need more than the sales of Burke and Jervis to get them through the season and I wonder if we’ll see someone like Curtis Davies or Marlon King moved on if interest in Jack Butland doesn’t firm up any further. Whilst Blues do need to sell I hope desperation doesn’t set in and it could be that clubs are waiting Blues out knowing that they’ll be able to pick up a bargain in the last days of January.

If you have seen a story that I haven’t (please nothing from before January 1) then leave a comment or drop me a line and I’ll add it to the spreadsheet.

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89 Responses to “Gossip Folks – The Transfer Rumour Mill (Winter 2013 Edition) Week Two”

  • Letsby Avenue says:

    “…it could be that clubs are waiting Blues out knowing that they’ll be able to pick up a bargain in the last days of January………”

    Must agree AJ.

    I note, with humour, the many posters on various forums (yes, I probably follow as many as you…..Nerds-Unite !)—–who are obsessed with a “Fire-Sale”, some even use it as an avator or Signature, so confidant they are—

    2 weeks in—nothing moving—even at the posh end.

    Clark says he has made enquiries, touched base, as a manager must. I only hope that he has created a trust with certain clubs / agents / players—-that if we get money very late in the day we will follow through—very late in the say.

    I hope it’s not going to be a 9:45pm deal on the 31st, when a buyer gets close to our selling price—leaving Clark and Ms Shelton with about an hour to conclude the strategy.

    ……………….

    We basically only have 2 players to sell into the Premier.– Where the money comes from—-Jack and Curtis —imo

    And lower Premier clubs as well.

    A firesale can’t happen because we have got no real goods to flog.

    Nobody really wants Ziggs do they?

    But his agent can invoice Ziggs, for his press clippings’

    ————–

    The Late-Late Show is my only worry. WE sell someone for reasonable money–,LATE, and we have so little time to import. Which is why I hope Lee has “understandings” with other clubs about ‘late’ transfers.

    ——————-

    To give us some respite, let us all have a laugh at the ‘Fire-sale’ posters.

    :-)

    • Julian Glass says:

      Therein lies the problem. Experiences at previous clubs has shown he’s not the brightest biscuit in the tin

    • nicky wicky says:

      why wouldn’t they want zigs. he’s proven he can score in the premier. just cause hes not scoring enough right now. thats just because the players keep pumping long balls up to him and hes used to balls layed to his feet. he’s more of a darren bent type of player. If he had proper service hed get loads of goals!

  • swissjonny says:

    I think Forests offer for Burke is derisory-this is football and he is a more than competent player at this level.Synchronized swimmers probably change hands for rmore than this.Letsby is absolutely right-we have to avoid the fire sale.This is one of the most crucial moments in our Clubs recent history.If we can manage this period well and therefore avoid relegation life will be a lot easier vis a vis the regime change.

    • @bluemaximus says:

      If Burke was sold at the start of this season I would have put him in a 1.5-2m bracket. I’m personally amazed Hughton didn’t come in for him because he was 1st class last year.

  • pierre says:

    how much trouble would we be in if nobody buys any of our players.

  • Blue Steve says:

    Seems important that Butland is sold not too late in the window. Almajir do you know if we have an option on Burkes contract when it expires at the end of the sesaon?

  • Northern Exile says:

    I’m surprised that Elazığspor have come in for Jervis. He’s hardly going to be the kind of signing that will propel them up the league, and I wonder whether he’d risk the chance of playing second-tier Turkish football? Not the most straightforward of languages for English-speakers to pick up, either.

    At 50000 Euros we should bite their hands off.

    As was said above, the offer from Forest for Burke was an insult. I’d imagine we’d be looking for at least £1m before even considering the offer, though clubs know that if they play hardball we’ll eventually have to crack because it just becomes a matter of getting something in rather than nothing.

  • bluenoseneil says:

    “as yet Birmingham City have yet to do any business either inwards or outwards.” Poor old David Lucas. Gone AND forgotten…

  • Paul Carter - The Voice Of Reason he says:

    Non attenders hang your heads in shame for you are to blame for this exodus.

  • Mike Allen says:

    Morning,

    I saw a little line on Football365 trasfr gossp that Forest are preparing to come back in with a £550k bid for Burke, which is a little more like it I think. If we can push then tp around the £750k mark then we maybe getting the better end of the deal, as much as I don’t really want him to be sold.

    Mike

  • mark says:

    I also think some of the fans on here have been taking the fairy dust…get real and start supporting our club. As mentioned before our away support is excellent brilliant at Huddersfield regardless of the result. It about time the fair weather and so-call supporters got their act together and join the true supporters down our club. KRO. Who leaves who cares your team needs you…these young lads need our support……forever blue..

  • Paul Carter - The Voice Of Reason he says:

    Nah Mark they’ll leave it to those like the little old scarf lady who aint got 2 pennys to rub together to do the supporting.

    If only the Blues Internet Crew & Wembley Season Ticket Holders would come down after all they all had the money for Europe.

    Oh hang on, it’s snowing. That’s me then, no way am I going now.

  • chas says:

    Agent McLeish, the blame lies at the door of the overpaid primadonnas who got us relegated in the first place..

  • R SMITH says:

    Since when have attendances kept clubs afloat? As we have already been told, our crowds hardly pay for Ziggi’s wages. Even if we filled the ground every week there would have to be sales. Football is not self supporting unless you are Man Ure or Arsenal and won’t be until the players wages become sensible.
    Just out of interest I heard on the radio yesterday that if ticket prices had risen at inflation rate over the last 25 years average prices today would be £8. Is it any wonder that so many people have become disillusioned and given up going?

    • Alex T says:

      I know it goes against your point, but 25 years ago, we were getting attendances of 7k! I think we must always have had fickle fans, we just have a new breed of them who expect more for their money, which TBH is fair enough at £20-£25 a pop

  • Callum says:

    Tbh if Butland is to go I would sell him now and get a GK on a free like lee camp for example hardly going to cost the world in wages and hes decent. We need to find a new CB as that is the main reason why we are losing games they have no pace so look at some free or loan deals on a CB. Also we need to get some players back to fitness then we should start winning more games. Think clark needs to think about who he plays bit harder cus its like sunday league football all the favorites play and the others are on the bench its not good when u see someone like lovenkrands not getting regular first team football hes probz one my favs as well as burke hes awesome and i think lee clarks the reason behind him being poor this season.

    • nicky wicky says:

      what we need is to get a balance between youth and experience. stop playing long balls all the time. defend properly. work on our set peices so we actually score some goals from them(how many times have we scored from a set peice? Most goals are supposed to come from set peices)stop giving the ball away all the time. last year we played intelligent football to feet at speed, we defended well. If we could tighten up our defence so that we stopped conceding all these soft goals then we’d have an outside chance of making the play-offs!

    • Bluehobba says:

      You might be correct but on Saturday both Caldwell and Davies had very good games… Butland pulled off 2 or 3 saves that he had no right to get anywhere near. #KRO

  • Paul Carter - The Voice Of Reason he says:

    Filth v Saints – Scum Park saturday last

    2 crap teams on crap runs 32,500

    Next

  • kirkus says:

    you have got to let this vendetta go paul,casual blues fans never meant to hurt u,or make u cry your just a bitter guy

    • Paul Carter - The Voice Of Reason says:

      No vendeta mate just hate looking at empty seats all around the ground and the effect it must be having on cashflow. What gets me mad the most is all these folk coming up with reasons for not going. Here’s a reason FOR going, the club needs its fans.

      Now Dan himself is saying we’ll be lucky to get 10K tomorrow night and I hate to keep referring to the filth but their last home night game 36,863. They got hammered 4-0 then had another game on the Saturday – 33,374 (lost 3-0) so don’t give me the ‘it’s cos we’re shit’ reason ok.

      Same city, same economics, why wont our fans go support their team?

      (cue the ‘get down the Vile if you love em so much’ replies)

      • manicmac says:

        PC the voice of insanity

        How can you afford to go down to every match. You make so many posts to this site at all times of the day -do you work? or are you a bored millionaire? which might explain a few things

  • Art Watson says:

    Hi Paul,

    This is just a ridiculous comparison and one which will just alienate any potential supporters.

    Have you not thought your comments are doing more harm than good?

    Supporters will not be forced to attend the games -despite your insistence!

    • Evesham blue says:

      He is clueless. I can’t go because I am a shift worker and can’t get to many games. I used to be season ticket holder beforehand. I think the attendances are about right for a team struggling at the bottom of the championship with no investment and playing poorly. I am not a masochist who pays £20 – £30 a game for the sake of it. PP can pay himself 700k and then say we are in the shit as much as he wants. Until he invests in the club he doesn’t have the right to criticise the fans when we ain’t stupid and can see all the family silver being flogged off

  • Evesham blue says:

    Funny isn’t it? We should get down and support the blues and PP and Zigic are still taking their pound of flesh out of the club? Set an example and fore go your inflated salaries if you really want to keep the club a float. Who knows – might not be able to afford paying your salaries soon…

    • Alex T says:

      I think some of us just need to accept that Villa have more fans than us. Im not ashamed of being a smaller club than Villa, or the Baggies or Wolves for that matter. We have a great club which has its own unique kind of history, but one that has not built up the kind of support the other clubs have over the years…. mainly, because usually when we are on the cusp of something great, it all comes falling apart (Getting relegated and Yeung getting arrested straight after we win the league cup a perfect example)……
      So, yes there are empty seats, and yes there are not so many hard core fans where football expense has the same or more priority over family requirements, but that is because we are a medium sized football club that needs to do MUCH more to attract a new generation of fans…

  • BN1875 says:

    I was a season ticket holder with my son and wife up until and including the season we got back up with Scottie. During that season I got so disillusioned with the sterile rubbish football played that I did not renew for the next season back in the premiership because I did not think under him the football would improve. Since then all the goings on have only further disillusioned me and the desire to go down has almost gone completely which I do not think will return until we have new owners.

  • Evesham blue says:

    It would take 2000 fans gate receipts to pay one week of zigic’s 50k salary at £25 a head. Kind of gets things in perspective. We weren’t selling out in the premiership let alone the bottom of the champ. Our wage budget is still way too high 25m with reduced turnover when the parachute payments end as well. Zigic will be in the last year of his contract. His agent has already admitted he is on salary like he is playing for Man U and isn’t going anywhere. So who fault will it be if we go into admin? Did the fans ask for CY to get arrested? Did the fans ask for ridiculous player contracts to be negotiated with no wage reduction clause? Did the fans ask for a manager who can’t be sacked regardless of performances? If we are in so much crap then why draw out big exec salaries. Yes PP if we go into admin it will be because of poor husbandry of our resources. Not fan attendances who quite frankly are fed up with the lack of communication and engagement from our leadership. Who sold us down the river exactly? Who paid way over the odds for a football team and didn’t safeguard the future exactly?

    • Blue in Spain says:

      Sorry Evesham, it is down to the reasons you give, but how can it not be down to attendance too… as that is cash that is needed to run the club! An extra 5000 on the gate must equate to at least £100,000 plus add ons for drinks and food. Add that up over the season and your talking over two million! How would that help towards cash flow? Now I realise that people have a freedom of choice, but you can’t then say it doesn’t contribute towards our predicament.

      • Evesham blue says:

        Fair enough. Just trying to offer a different perspective considering its not the fans who draw money out the club but very highly paid mercenaries

  • Mark Y says:

    I think its more than coincidence that Burke’s form has picked up now we are in the transfer window. I think Blues will sell him as he is out of contract in the summer. I think Butland will go but if we are not careful we will sell for less than we should because of our situation. I would like a Dutch auction to develop but I fear we will agree a fee with a club in desperation and then other interested clubs will then come in and offer the same fee and then deal with Butland’s agent.

  • Tony says:

    Think The voice of insanity might be full of crap, how do we know he goes to every match does he work? he spends all hours on here must have a great job.
    His is the voice of apathy he would stand for anything, we shoud not be in this mess PP &CY Have knackered this cub up good and proper. We should all stay away and see the club go into administration have a clean start.

    • Blue in Spain says:

      Yes administration would help the 100’s of people that work for Blues wouldn’t it! (Players would be ok, as for some reason their salary is guaranteed) Personally with an attitude like yours, you’re the one full of crap.

  • Paul Carter - The Voice Of Reason says:

    Some right shite being spoken on here again as to why people don’t go down.

    Who in their right feckin mind when deciding whether to go the game or not stops to think about how much Zigic is on? Answer no-one it’s bullshit. It’s also worth noting not a peep when we signed him, good move, progression, going up a level were the comments at the time and out of all our signings, and I mean EVER, Zigic delivered most. Gave us our best days ever. You probably weren’t at the game or was surfing the net when he scored the winner in the 1/4 final against the filth. You were probably wank*ng over your bank accounts when he tore West Ham apart to put us in the final. Remember Mcleishs comments? Doubt it you were all probably in Aldi searching for the 10 pence off Lenor when he said this ‘

    Blues gaffer McLeish admitted his side looked like a lost cause at half-time until the introduction of Serbian star Zigic turned the tie on its head.

    He said: “I said to the players at half-time we were out of the Cup.

    “I had to make a change that would make an instant impact. I said to put crosses into the box for the presence of Zigic.

    “It was his best game for us, he was difficult for them to handle. Zigic made the difference.”

    I wont ask where you all were at Wembley cos I know you were all there that day weren’t you putting your terrible money problems to one side, your ziggy wages issues and how crap the football issues to another then watching him SET UP THE WINNER FOR THE DAY OF OUR LIVES and now you come on here slagging him. That is Blues fans 2013

    Guess who will be there tomorrow? Little old scarf lady whos got feck all and who some Blues fans started 2013 off by hoaxing her death whilst others congratulated em when it all came out it was a hoax. On a Blues site too. And where will YOU be?

    • Evesham blue says:

      Maybe you should stop and think how much zigic is on you retard and whether we can afford him. That’s one of the reasons we are in the mess because we can’t offload him. Having a pop at your own fans with a “I am better fan than you because I am there whatever” is just inbred. Any thinking man would question what is going on but you just spout gullible chest beating testosterone. Muppet. Get down the Vile you would fit right in there

      • Blue in Spain says:

        Having a pop at Zigic, and calling him greedy is hardly constructive either, would you accept a reduction in wages? Thought Not!

        • Evesham blue says:

          Zigic won’t get paid if we go into admin and he is not exactly a spring chicken either. I would take pay cut if it meant staying in employment as thousands are doing now in this situation. Of course he isn’t going to get better anywhere else which is blues fault for not putting in the clause. I don’t blame him but he could leave on a reduced contract and maybe extend his career a year or two? Besides I don’t see anyone beating a path to his door either

          • almajir says:

            He will.

            Blue in Spain is right – football creditors get paid first (before the taxman even) and that includes the players.

          • Paul Carter - The Voice Of Reason says:

            Get yer facts right Eve -Sham old boy

          • Evesham blue says:

            You go into admin as you have no money. How on earth do you pay someone’s wages for the rest of their contracts if you don’t have the money?

          • almajir says:

            Well, it’s not quite that simple.

            A company goes into administration either when a hostile creditor forces it over an unpaid debt or when directors request it as a protection from a hostile creditor.

            When a company is in administration it still trades – so there is money there – but drastic decisions are made to decrease outgoings and a compromise solution is sought on paying off debts (a CVA). If that can’t be reached then a company can get liquidated.

            Pompey have been in administration for nearly 12 months. Did you think that their players were playing for free?

          • Evesham blue says:

            So all contacts still stand?

          • almajir says:

            Yes

            What happens is that clubs will try to negotiate payoffs for players – which is what Portsmouth did – but players do not have to accept them as they are protected under the league rules. Hence Portsmouth had a hell of a game getting rid of players. Therefore it doesn’t change much realistically except the club are under more pressure to move players on.

          • Evesham blue says:

            Ok. Bow down to your superior knowledge. What about the ownership? Would they still own the club or would they have to sell for peanuts?

          • almajir says:

            Well, the whole point of admin is that they wouldn’t own it any more and the administrator would sell the club to the highest bidder.

            Whilst it does sound a panacea in that respect it would be hard times for Blues – for the staff behind the scenes particularly and I really do believe it’s the last resort.

    • almajir says:

      Okay, enough.

    • Blue in Spain says:

      Paul, as usual I agree with you, and I don’t go, then again I never went to Wembley either, but had my best ever day in front of the TV! Some people love to criticise every aspect of the club, but can’t accept criticism themselves!

    • Sirharry1875 says:

      Anyone who gets a goal against the enemy is a legend in my eyes. Handysides getting the 2nd on enemy territory in 1987, remember that one Paul? Sat in the Witton lane with 1000 Blues in the home end next to the Holte End!! Howard Gayle, Byron Stevenson, Wayne Clarke etc

      So the winner in a q final against the scum, destroying the hammers, scoring one and causing the winner with minutes to go in the Final? That’s way beyond legend. A trophy at Wembley against one of Europes finest and the bloke that made it happen is on 50 grand a week, cost about 20 million all in! A bargain! Peanuts!!!

      • Support your club - Don't go down he says:

        Thought Handy got the 1st? Remember it well H, us lot were in the Trinity Rd on the left hand side of the Holte and there must have been 300 in there easy cos when we scored half the stand were up cheering. We were in there due to the Witton being sold out (no shifts, low cost, brilliant football) apparently and the filth threw some pitiful shapes trying to make out they were coming over the fence. Boiling hot day and a brilliant trip to scum park and walk back to town.

        • Sirharry1875 says:

          Yes your right. I remember he cut in from the right. We we’re top with 6 points after that and then it all went down hill. Remember going to Millwall on a tuesday night not long after. About 100 Blues. A coach got lost then ambushed. Still got the newspaper cutting.

          • Support your club - Don't go down he says:

            Well Sir I was on said coach with the famous John the driver at the wheel.

            Very scary

          • Sirharry1875 says:

            I was one of five that went on the train. After being kept in for the usual half hour, I asked a plod if we’d get an escort to New Cross, he just laughed and said “your on you own, good luck”. we all split up and managed it unscathed.

  • Murph says:

    Well iv my ticket for tomoror and looking forward to the footy , I swore after watching us lose to altringham I’d never go again and that was when we were having crowds of 6 thousand a week , but here I am still , it’s our club and you either follow them or you don’t , and yes I got a ticket for the Wembley final and it was as good as being at the play off final , we have ups n downs and we have just to stick with them , if you want to that is ! Kro and spurs next round

    • Paul Carter - The Voice Of Reason says:

      Hear hear Murph

      That’s the spirit mate. Leave it to us we’ll keep putting the money in so the glory boys might get another Wembley. That Altrincham game you refer to was postponed a few times due to the weather, freezing cold, terrible night, Hoppys own goal cancelling out his first and our plans for a trip to York in the next round out the window. 1986 it was and I think the last time a non league club beat a top league team at their own ground (Dan will know) but might be Sutton/Cov? Jeff Wealands was in goal for them that night and got a great reception from the Blues crowd.

      Saunders went shortly after and John Bond got the gig. I think that season saw the lowest ever 1st team crowd at St Andrews of 3500ish for a league cup game v Bristol Rovers. Yes I was there and at the away leg too.

      Little known fact but 1000s stayed away in protest at Andy Kennedys wages.

  • Paul Carter - The Voice Of Reason says:

    I’ve finally got one right!

    Sutton/Cov was at Sutton not Cov :)

  • Paul Carter - The Voice Of Reason says:

    :)

    • Mjt says:

      Paul,

      This is not a reply to this particular post, it is a comment on your attitude towards non attendance and your ridiculous, inaccurate username, to address that first-

      You are not the voice of reason, to be the voice of reason you need to have a balanced view and be able to both sides to an argument. I acknowledge that your views are often opposite to the ‘mainstream’ however they often as extreme as anyone else’s, not the voice of reason, more like the voice of opposition.

      It appears you make no effort to understand why fans don’t go to games despite it being obvious, it is simply not enjoyable. Football is supposed to be an entertainment business and Blues, at the moment, are not entertaining. I have a season ticket and a life long Bluenose who has always gone to games and share your frustration at the empty seats, but if Blues carry on not entertaining me, I won’t be renewing.

      People want to see good football played by passionate players, the reason we don’t have these two things is up for debate but the root cause has to be the ownership situation. The people who don’t go to the match are not helping but they are not to blame.

      I respect your passion for Blues as it shared by many of us but I think you need a dose of realism on two points.

      1. Villa’s attendance is down at the moment as they are not entertaining their fans but as frustrating as it is they are and have always been a bigger club than us with a bigger fan base, this may not always be the case but historically it is, the sooner blues fans accept this the better.

      2. Watching Blues is not that attractive a proposition at the moment and in the grand scheme of things there is more to life than watching a mediocre Blues. You’d do well to remember that sometimes rather than criticise others who already have. I fear for your sanity if you don’t get a sense of perspective.

      • Evesham blue says:

        Lol. Well said and articulated in an intelligent way. I take my hat off to you Sir. I think you have hit the nail on the head there. I get so frustrated trying to reason with those that only see it one way

      • Sirharry1875 says:

        You write as though Birmingham City have been some sort of football academy for the past 50 years and this season it’s all fell apart. If my memory serves me right (and I think the history books will back me up on this) we have always been fairly sh*t and we have rarely been known as entertaining, so I don’t know what you expecting to see!

        Pauls point is that when the Club needs it’s fans the most, there are thousands who went to Wembley, Europe, Man U/Chelsea games etc who turn their backs and come up with any number of excuses not to attend.

        We have a team of kids, a fair few of which are a product of our own youth system even a few Brummies. They need our support.

        • Support your club - Don't go down he says:

          Possible Premier League newbie? One of those who came and went in the space of 3 seasons?

        • Mjt says:

          I agree with the sentiment of supporting the youngsters and the team in general, but understand why some chose not attend. I don’t believe we have been an academy of football for 50 years but I do believe, relative to the last 10 or 15 years or so, it has all fallen apart this season. The reason i say this is because in that time, as you and all bluenoses know, we have had numerous playoffs, league cup finals, premiership stability with decent players, relegation battles, automatic promotion, big derby wins, Europa league and more often than not a team that will fight for a result. I would class that as entertaining or at least it has been for me anyway. This season feels fundamentally different and believe that is why some people stay away. As I said before, I believe the root cause is the ownership problem and the knock on effect that is having. Like Paul and 14,000 or so others I will continue to support the team this season but I won’t criticise people who decide not to when it is so obvious why they don’t.

          • Sirharry1875 says:

            But you have just highlighted all that PC has been saying
            “I’ll support you when it’s good but when it’s sh*t again i’ll stop going. But don’t worry when it’s gets a bit exciting again i’ll be back for piece of it”
            That’s not supporting your team it’s cowardice. Can’t handle the rough, turn your back.

            Wrong my friend, so wrong and as PC says, if we all did that then BCFC would not exist. Simple.
            If you care get down there, but if you don’t then stay away. Just don’t come on here writing posts about the Club you turned your back on when it needed you most.

        • Mjt says:

          Re: your last comment with the reply button removed. Like it or not (I assume not) That is how it works, supply something people want and there will be a demand for it. Supply a poor product (or poorly managed club in Blues case) and there will be less demand. My point is don’t blame the fans for not wanting go and say they have caused the situation like has been said above. It is the owners fault we’re in this mess, not stay away fans who want to enjoy what they spend their money on. I continue to support the team like you and Paul, all I’m saying is that for a self proclaimed voice of reason, it is unreasonable to blame stay away fans when what is on offer is not that great.

          • almajir says:

            FYI – the reply button isn’t removed, unfortunately comments are only allowed to be so many levels deep

          • Mjt says:

            Almajir- my apologies if you thought I was suggesting that you removed it, I realise there is a limit I just wanted to be clear which comment was replying to. Also note as you have pointed out many times the club is extremely well run by the staff at St Andrews, it is the ownership I’m trying to get at when I say a ‘poorly managed club’ above.

          • almajir says:

            Absolutely no problems, just wanted to make sure people knew I wasn’t favouring anyone in particular.

  • BobBobandTrev says:

    Wow, it’s finally gone quiet, Blue in Spain, is it snowing over there?

  • Tony says:

    check your facts blue and lay of the vimto

  • BobBobandTrev says:

    Just because you live in Spain is no excuse for not going eh Paul.

  • Wingman Blue says:

    Quite.

  • DoctorD says:

    If I can change the subject,.if we were to have a decent amount of cash, which we don’t, I wonder who would be the best addition to our squad? In other words, which one player in the £0-2million bracket would make our team perform at a higher level?


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