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Carson Appeal Dismissed

Carson Yeung’s appeal against his conviction of five counts of money laundering was today dismissed in the Court of Appeal.

However, he has been given leave to appeal in the Court of Final Appeal on several grounds by the Judges.

There will be a further hearing on Friday May 15 where an outstanding issue with respect to his sentence will be addressed. Carson was originally sentenced to six years imprisonment.

Joanna Wang Manli, Carson’s common law wife was present in the court room along with Arjun Kumar Gurung – Carson’s driver/bodyguard and would-be director of BIH and disbarred solicitor and “legal advisor” to Carson, Isaac Sadiq.

You can read the full judgement along with Hong Kong solicitor and Co-Author Will Giles’ comments on the Haircuts and League Cups site here.

Video analysis available here.

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85 Responses to “Carson Appeal Dismissed”

  • letsby avenue says:

    Thanks AJ. And your HK colleagues.

    :-)

  • BhamCityJulian says:

    I’ve fallen asleep on the settee and then suddenly I wake up. Realising the time I go to my phone and notice your DISMISSED tweet sent a minute earlier.

  • peter bates says:

    Let’s hope e & y can now get on with the job they have started but can’t help feeling that Carson his not giving up bcfc easily I hope gr doesn’t get fed up with this mess and seeks pastures new it looks like this could run and run and the end of it seems further away than ever what with claims for money owed to other company’s and of course pannu wants his chunk of cake the down side for me cy still owns the club oh woe kro

  • swissjonny says:

    As expected really.Mike Lunn is a no nonesense judge and any relly hot potatoe like this was always going to get shunted upstairs.Whilst Will Giles may well be correct about the merits of Carsens appeal I cant help thinking that the current crackdown on graft etc which is prevalent in China will not help his cause.Another case of wait and see!!

    • almajir says:

      I concur SJ

    • will says:

      Good to see you’re alive and kicking SJ!The big question is whether you are going to sponsor a sequel to HCLCs?More than enough material for Daniel and me to update this amazing tale

      • Tony says:

        Will I really do not think so, everything you write seems to be with the thought of book sales, your assumptions up to now hove proved incorrect, makes me wonder if you really are a solicitor.and if so what standard.
        These days I am finding myself looking for SJ posts for what is going on.

        • will says:

          Tony have you actually read Haircuts & League Cups?…if you did you might learn something…apart from manners of course

          • Spuddy says:

            Will, disagree with the guy sure… but what grounds do you have to question his manners?

            All Tony did was question your motives, there are no bad manners in that.

        • almajir says:

          Tony

          Don’t take my word for it – Hart Giles (the firm of which Will is a partner in) is a highly recommended firm as per Asia Law, one of the key who’s who guides in HK.

          Link for you http://www.asialawprofiles.com/pdfs/Directories/33/Hong%20Kong-2013.pdf

          • Tony says:

            Yes Dan I have done all of that but, find it solewhat strane that a proffesional man wold openly plug sales of a book.

          • almajir says:

            Tony

            Okay, so you’re telling me if your name wasn’t on the front cover on the book as author you wouldn’t encourage people to read it?

            You sure about that?

      • swissjonny says:

        Mate Im waiting for the film!

  • paul in oz says:

    Great news a step forward, the legal cost must be killing him, if the shares were floated now they would rise. I just can’t see him or his cohorts not selling they shares now. I still think new buyer is big, will need to be to give Exchange comfordence in floating compant again. Go Blues

  • Mitchell says:

    Analyse this. It would have been a Godsend if CY were to have been given a free walk out of prison.No more waiting for next news of his latest appeal, no more of will he wont he sell etc. Now we have months and months of indecision and I am predicting a real struggle within the club to get any kind of stability. Yes we have EY and GR as pluses and a reasonable squad to hold our own..just. However,reality is that we as fans are without doubt kept in the dark for long periods of time. My plea to EY is to give a little insight into what is happening. Dan, you are doing your best,but what we are getting out of the Club is not going to entice renewed or new season ticket sales. Preferred bidders, new interested parties etc,etc.. If as expected this month passes in much of the past, then the summer will go by with dwindling interest as to buying into the new season.

    • JohnnyZulu says:

      Probably the most confused poster I have seen on here. This is great news for the CLUB and a giant step in the right direction again. Did you expect this whole process of getting rid of Yeung, Pannu and finding new owners to be simple?! Pavlakis, EY are doing a clever job and a good job in the circumstances as is a certain Mr Rowett.

  • Agent McLeish says:

    Good news for the club. No coincidence that things seem to be improving since CY & PP1 are not the ‘decision’ makers.

    PS
    CY’s driver must be twiddling his thumbs now. Maybe he’s filling in time as a cabbie?

  • Hillfield Blues says:

    Good outcome. He is still in jail and still unable to disrupt E&Y’s progress. How long will it be before the court of final appeal judgement is made? Hopefully E&Y will have got further down the line to a resolution by then to make his release irrevalent.

  • rhees says:

    Lets just hope we can get on things now I for one don’t want the dodgy guy at the club

  • rhees says:

    I’m going to trust in panos and e young

  • Blue Lizard says:

    Whats after the court of Final appeals… the court of Final, Final, ultimate, last ditch appeals???

    • almajir says:

      No, that’s it.

      Funny thing is there are more avenues of appeal here in the UK…

  • The Francis Fake says:

    Dan, kit appears that Carson may succeed in getting out on bail prior to the Final appeal hearing, is this the case and if so will he be able to disrupt E&Y?

    • almajir says:

      I think it will actually help, it would be a better position for them to negotiate with him than through his lawyers

  • zxcv says:

    Told you all along he won`t win an appeal, The law change has nothing to do with his trial. Also told you at the time he wouldn`t get bail pending appeal. Now I will tell you he will get time knocked off his sentence of six years to around 5 years because of the judging error. I am happy he lost todays appeal but once the club is sold I couldn`t give a hoot if he gets out the day after.

    • almajir says:

      a) did you read the judgement? I suggest you do

      b) doubt he’ll get any time knocked off – but the Judge himself has hinted he’ll look favourably on a bail application Friday…

      In short – you told us nothing :)

      • zxcv says:

        So he has won the appeal then has he? er no, That’s one I told you, and you were wrong and I told you he would not get bail after his conviction pending THIS appeal today. Now Dan that is not nothing mate that is TWO things you argued with me over and you are wrong on both. Man up will you.

        • almajir says:

          Oh lord, it’s another keyboard warrior.

          You told me nothing mate, I have said I always thought Carson would stay inside cos of the political considerations – check my videos to make sure. Also, wait til Friday before crowing about him not getting bail – ;)

  • DoctorD says:

    That decision is great, though it looks like your co-author Will Giles called it wrong, didn’t he Dan? I wonder if CY will appeal again — Dan, would you concur that CY is a gambler. I am convinced he will pile all his chips on a final final appeal.

    • DoctorD says:

      I was refering to this:
      http://www.oftenpartisan.co.uk/archives/12790/landmark-ruling-gives-carson-appeal-hope.html

      “Will Giles, co-author of “Haircuts and League Cups” and solicitor in Hong Kong for 24 years said:” Carson has a good ground of appeal “

      • almajir says:

        Well

        Carson may not have been released but the appeal must have been good as he has an automatic ticket to the CFA – that’s quite unusual. It’s as if the CoA Judges have “kicked it upstairs” because they don’t want to deal with it.

    • zxcv says:

      Who said he is going to a final appeal, he may not if he gets his sentence reduced.

    • Tony says:

      Ye3s he called it wrong AGAIN

      • almajir says:

        Except he didn’t.

        Will always said it was likely to go the distance – the fact Carson has an automatic right to the court of appeal backs up everything Will said about Carson having good grounds of appeal.

        • Mickey07 says:

          Dan
          Can’t figure will out to be honest 1.will comes across saying carson has a very good chance of getting off/or out and 2. You seem to think its got a bit political regarding carson and mainland china has got involved,and your words was what mainland china wants mainland china gets regarding making and example of carson and keeping him in jail….two totally different things fella so whats it to be??my take on it is I think will has been a tad o.t.t. In the video blogs.

  • Blue Tsunami says:

    Looking forward to the video as it will help make sense of things

  • Blue Tsunami says:

    ThisChinese legal system seems so convoluted that i just can’t follow it

  • […] Birmingham City owner Carson Yeung has had his official appeal against his five counts of money laundering dismissed, reports Often Partisan. […]

  • Rich27 says:

    Dan please just bar that tony of this site he’s more negative then the whole situation itself. Everything you say makes sence! To many of us he’s a bloody keyboard warrior!! And most likely hasn’t been to a game since the Trevor Francis days! Bore off tony!!! Doin my head dan keep up the good work.

    • Tony says:

      You my friend are a perfect example of some Sycophantic posters on here, who the hell are you to call for me to be banned because I hold different views to yourself?.

      • StaffsBlue says:

        You and I don’t always agree on things Tony, but I respect your right to have different opinions. I feel no one has the right to demand that anyone be banned on here. It has to be OP’s decision and his reasons only. Now I’ve got that off my chest, I can go back to disagreeing with you. ;)

      • BhamCityJulian says:

        Tony. I think some people (not me) want you banned only because they think you’re a miserable old b@@@er!

        When I moaned about boring McLeish and clueless Clark I got called similar on Twitter. As it happened I was correct but the positives I put on got ignored because it didn’t suit their agenda.

        With regard to Will you are probably calling it wrong but that’s your choice

      • almajir says:

        Don’t worry Tony – I won’t ban you for having a different viewpoint.

        • tony says:

          Dan never for one moment did I think you would, your too big a man for that,In the past I have been fullsome in my praise and gratitude for all you diligence and hard work, and that remains the case.
          On rare occasions I think a point needs raising and I will continue to do that.

          • swissjonny says:

            I think its great to have some proper debate.Will is most probably correct on points of law but I really feel that the atmosphere in HK and China to clean things up and more pertinently to be seen to be doing this is going to have a massive influence.Im just sorry that E and Y would not enter into some serious discussions with a very serious and very well represented bidder.I know that they want to acheive maximum value by engineering something with the listing but as the investors were represented by a leading investment bank they should at least have entered into dialogue-who knows the afore mentioned bank may well have had another client or fund that could have reversed into the listing and flogged the football club simultaneously.If they are not open to constructive dialogue with credible people it is to say at least disappointing! And no I cant say who the client or bank was.

    • tony says:

      Rich were you one of the people who supported Clark in the days of despair when I and a few others were attacking him for his undoubted lack of ability?.We were called negative by many, many, people but were proved right in the end, even though it took many of you years to realize it,far from being negative I consider us to be enlightened.

      • dablu says:

        I remember sayingon the b.mail website on an article saying lovenkrands was clarks top target that that didn’t give much hope, unless he meant it some other way.. on the record I never slated clark, but off it I thought he wasn’t capable.. why I came to that conclusion was when huddersfeild and other teams came up, and had progressed more than blues.. and that was still with some of te better players we had from hughtons tenure.. we are all entitled to opinions on here rich, I aint gone to a match since the francis days myself.. but I would say im not a fan.. losses hurt, and the wins feel nice

  • The final plea will probably take off the time he as already served plus some time off whilst under house arrest which will probably give him3 years to serve , which will probably see enough difference in the club for us to feel normal again ….kro

  • BhamCityJulian says:

    Hopefully there is enough trust between Gary and Panos such that if the loan facility is a recursor to a ‘Mr Big’ coming in Gary is made aware that the club can meet his ambitions and conversely Gary doesn’t buy players if he has reasonable expectations of moving on during the summer

  • ChrisG says:

    I can’t believe some of the comments on here from so called Blues fans, Dan & Will were the first to provide us with the outcome of the appeal albeit at 3am this morning, but still they didn’t have to do it, ok I know Will is on HK time but Dan isn’t, They provided us with the full result ( way earlier than the rest of the media). Dan has kept us up to date with this trial for the last couple of years so give these guys some respect for f*** sake

    • Hillfield Blues says:

      Couldn’t agree more-Unbeleivable! It’s not like they’re getting payed for it either is it!

  • paule says:

    This site is the first place i look for information about the Blues and it is obvious the people knocking Dan are on here looking for up to date news too, i can’t understand why anyone would have a dig it just don’t make sense to me!! The only thing i don’t understand is Almajir could someone enlighten me? Fantastic site Dan.

  • StaffsBlue says:

    Enjoy the emails and the videos… much appreciated.

  • Dave Mann says:

    People who post on here and slag off Daniel and bcfc .. Why do you bother?? It’s the owners and people like you who everybody else should be slagging off … In hope you all get what you wish for .. Really!! Kro

    • Geoff S says:

      I don’t always agree with you, Dave, but you are right on the money there. Well said. Almajir may not get it right every time (who among us ever does?) but he busts a gut to investigate and bring to light all things BCFC.

      • Dave Mann says:

        Cheers Geoff, we’ve all got our own opinions and most of us on here agree that this site is the most knowledgable and informative as you get on anything blues .. Ok Dan , myself , you and everyone else don’t get it right all the time but for people to come on here and say I told you so is just childish when once in a lifetime they do get it right .. Hip, hip hooray!! Kro

  • Fellow blue says:

    Dan I remember reading a comment of yours saying(roughly) that Carson has people willing to back him..but not the type you would want associated with the club. I know you obviously don’t know and I’m not really asking your opinion(although It would of course be welcomed) I’m just wondering is it a possibility that the loan could be coming from people in this category? I’d like to think E&Y would have ruled this out before picking this as the preferred bid but if the rest were for the club rather than a stake in BIH than this one was the only real option at this point? As always thank you for your effort and KRO

  • Fellow blue says:

    I respect everyone’s right to have a view but how can you try to attack a man who has spent ridiculous amounts of time/money/effort to find real info. I occasionally have different views to dan/other posters but lets not forget that none of us would have real info to form an opinion without dans hard work..

  • Raymondo says:

    Carson continues his desperate struggling, E & Y continue their steady progress. GR looks forward to next season as I we do. It’ll be alright in the end. Keep Right On!

  • bcfcblues says:

    Could Carson have people be behind the loan and preferred bid?

  • Bluenosesol says:

    Last day of my hols here in Egypt so logged in for a catchup. Look forward to a Carson free season. Am getting our season tickets the weekend. Fantastic service from Dan and Will our quality news breakers and experts. Sadly though ashamed of the detractors puerile comments and I disassociate my self from these Pillocks. KRO and thanks for everything Dan!.

    • Mac says:

      Bluenosesol

      I agree with you. My old dad told me once “it’s sometimes better to let people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and prove them right”

      Someone should tell ZXCV and Tony this applies to the written word also.

      Keep up the good work Dan

      • tony says:

        Mac, your old daddy was quoting the words of Mark twain, or was it Abrahom Lincoln, there is some confusion.
        What is certain is those words were not the words of your father.

  • krotom says:

    Takeover- i am a very small shareholder who for the last couple of weeks have had a number phonecalls fro a chinese sounding voice asking if i am interested in selling my shares. I am not interested in selling but wondered if this was some sort of scam that people need to be aware of. Has anyone else had similar calls?

  • Andrew says:

    “Carson Appeal Dismissed” LOL!!

  • Kazakblue says:

    Just adding my few pence words here, a lot of the comments on here are seemingly derogatory or egotistical, just how many of the commentators have actually been to Hong Kong or China and lived and worked there?

    Dan as we all know has invested considerable time and money flying out to Hong Kong, and with the help and continued assistance of Will, they have managed to keep all of us cynical sceptics truly informed of what is going on in the best way they read it at the time.

    Hong Kong is extremely expensive if you do not know where to go, I remember Dan telling me once he could not even afford to drink in Ned Kelley’s (My Favourite Bar).

    And which author or co authors do not get themselves on the BBC or the Graham Norton show plugging their books for all they are worth?

    Dan and Will, remember before 1997, China had a policy of public executions by a bullet to the back of the head for money laundering and corruption, Carson should think himself very lucky he is out in Stanley Jail.

    For all you disbelieving or critics, I say this, try and get the same sort of info that the Birmingham Vile would put out about the Blues, you will never see it, that rag should be recoloured Claret and Blue.

    Keep up the excellent work Dan and Will.

    • Tony says:

      Kazak I cant recall too many lawyers peddling sales of a book, advertizing their services yes fair enough but . peddling a book about an unrelated topic, is it not a conflict of interest?..

      • will says:

        You obviously haven’t read it!Perhaps you could explain why I have a conflict of interest in writing a book about anti-money laundering law?Or are you still questioning my qualification as a solicitor?Maybe do a quick wiki search on “libel” before you answer.

      • almajir says:

        Tony

        Friendly warning here, but I’d be careful what you say – because you don’t know what you’re talking about and it could land you in trouble.

    • Geoff S says:

      Kazakblue.

      A timely and well-considered posting.

  • blue says:

    what would happen if his sentence is halved on Friday,,could he be released for time served?

    • will says:

      Blue in my view the sentence won’t be varied as it is comparable to others handed down in similar cases but it it were cut in half he would still have just under a year to do with a third off for good behaviour.There is a possibility of further discount to a half involving a half way house probation hostel but that requires the defendant to admit his guilt and give up his right of appeal which will not happen in this case.

  • Dave Mann says:

    Ah well, at least a new pitch is being laid and major painting going on so there’s some money bring spent already this close season. Kro

    • Geoff S says:

      Where exactly is the painting going on, Dave?

      I still believe an 8 foot high Blues crest (ball and globe badge) and B C F C lettering 5 or 6 feet high should be fitted to the white section of the outside of the Railway (Merrick) Stand. It would stand out right across the city centre and would give that side of the ground an identity it currently lacks.

      • almajir says:

        Council have blocked it cos they say it would be “tacky”. I actually agree with them.

        • Geoff S says:

          Thanks for replying.

          I thought that was if the signs were in neon lights. Many other buildings carry the names and logo details of who they are (have you seen the Matthew Boulton College signs on the Jennens Road site?) The B6 ground has not shortage of big signs to advertise who they are so why not Blues?

          Birmingham City University buildings carry very large BCU details on their walls as does Star CIty and what has it got to do with the city council anyway (a body busily cutting public services to the bone)?

        • Geoff S says:

          The council normally ingratiates itself in the face of business so what is the real reason here?


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