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No Greek Takeaway for Blues

The Birmingham Mail today confirmed that Birmingham City would not be pursuing an interest in AEK Athens winger Vangelis Platellas. The 25 year old scored fifteen goals in twenty-one games as AEK won the Greek Third Division at a canter.

Platellas is a bit of a strange one. From what I’ve heard from AEK fans he was comfortably their best player last season but I have to wonder how being the best player in a Greek Third Division side would translate to the Championship. Andrew Shinnie came to us on the back of an impressive season in the Scottish Premier League but found it very hard to make an impression in this first year at the club. Platellas is also quite small – only 5’4 tall and I would have to wonder if he would have been able to cope with the physicality of the division.

That being said I think the fact Blues were looking at him shows that we are targeting the right kind of player for our final signing. A pacy, attacking left footed left winger is exactly the kind of player Blues are missing. David Cotterill and Demarai Gray both can play on the left but are right footed; Lee Novak had his best games out there but he’s not a winger either. With Shane Ferguson having returned to Newcastle (and not making an impression in his second loan spell with us), Blues are down to playing players out of position to fill the troublesome spot.

The good news is that Clark is lining up other targets to fill the void. I think the squad is the most balanced it’s been since the man from the East End of Newcastle took charge and I’m hopeful that bodes well for the season ahead. It would appear that a season long loan for a left winger has been deemed acceptable but I agree that a permanent signing would be better as once again the player would then be ours, and would develop as an asset.

The club have also confirmed that Chris Burke and Nikola Zigic have both left now; while it’s disappointing as our longest-serving outfield players and highest current goalscorers I think in both cases it had to be expected. I will freely admit I’ll miss the lanky Serb and I hope that we have a new talismanic player within our ranks to score the important goals; Burke will be a huge miss as he was one of the few players we had last season who could actually create something from nothing to get us back into games. I’d like to join the club in wishing both players the best in the future.

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166 Responses to “No Greek Takeaway for Blues”

  • mark says:

    i doubt if Clark be to downhearted about miss out on this player, every player comes with a risk……..

    • ian says:

      most teams in the modern game play a type of 4-5-1 away from home,
      you do not need a flat back 4 to mark a lone striker,
      by keeping a flat back 4 you are allowing the opposition midfield far more space to play in,
      fair play clarke, sounds to me like football is turning full circle,
      inside left, inside right, half backs, outside right, outside left,
      they use different terminology nowadays, perhaps they want to take credit for inventing a new style of play which stanley mathews would instantly relate to.

      • Staffs Blue says:

        I’ve always seen no reason why the old “W” formation wouldn’t work just as well today. 2 wingers, a main striker and two attacking midfielders behind. As you say, with most teams playing one up front, two half backs and a centre half would cope adequately, with the full backs flexible.

        • Tony says:

          Staffs that was the formation that did for us in the 56 final it was known as the Revie plan.

          • Staffs Blue says:

            You might find that it was first used by Arsenal manager Herbert Chapman, way back when. When we (English teams) played that formation, we ruled the world. It’s only since we started to copy the Europeans that we’ve sunk to the depths we have. We ain’t NEVER gonna beat them at their game. In my opinion of course.

          • Shirley Blue says:

            Did we play that formation when we won the World Cup in 1966. I wasn’t actually born then but I think we played 4-3-3 didn’t we with no wingers at all.

          • Tony says:

            Yep your right Ramsey did away with wingers

          • Tony says:

            Well I cant remember that all teams lined up 2-3 5

        • Shirley Blue says:

          It was the WM formation not the W formation.

          • Staffs Blue says:

            We won the world cup that year I think, because it took everyone by surprise, playing without wingers. For me, winning the world cup with that formation was the worst thing that could have happened. We’ve gone downhill ever since. I can’t see us ever being in the top 2 or 3 countries again in my lifetime.

          • Shirley Blue says:

            World Cup semi finals 1990 without wingers. Euro 1996 semi finals without wingers. Without looking back at the record books what did we actually achieve with wingers?

          • Staffs Blue says:

            We’ve still only won the world cup once. So where’s the progress? We couldn’t even win a game this time.

          • Shirley Blue says:

            We did nothing before 1966 playing with wingers.

          • Staffs Blue says:

            If you prefer the game with wingers, fair enough. I prefer to see two wingers in a team.

          • Shirley Blue says:

            I just like to see a balanced, winning team whether they have got wingers or not.

  • mark says:

    regarding Shane this is a player who just loss his way, no blame can be attached to Clark, when it was Clark who gave him his opportunity……..really up to the player to take the bull by both hands.

  • Thongs says:

    After wading through the junk in Division one Clark turns his attention to the junk in the Greek third division. Where will he go now? Latvia pub leagues?

    • mark says:

      i think you been extremely disrespectful to players who you assume are junk?
      with out them even kicking a ball in a blue shirt jeez….keep your money in pocket lol

      • Thongs says:

        I’ve renewed my tickets pal, I’m expecting worse than last season though.

        • mark says:

          you might even be mildly surprised then?

        • dave mann says:

          so relegation is a must then thongs if were worst than last season…..i think you will be pleasently supprised and be glad like myself that youve got your tickets and get to see blues get 3 points in a home league game since october last year…….chin up pal.LOL, KRO.

        • Chris W says:

          Why renew if you expect worse than last season?
          I expect to win the league and both cups when the season starts, I know it won’t happen but that doesn’t stop my expectations. Reality I believe we will probably be much the same but with excitement and a better home record which will see us above the drop zone.
          KRO+DNM

    • Agent McLeish says:

      Where’s he going to shop then? In the Premier league? The only junk is your comments.

  • mark says:

    yeah best wishes to them both, bet he wont get another 65,000 contract

  • mark says:

    Having read i BM this morning Clark looks like he could be more adventurous in open play, as he states he will probably go with a 253,433, 442 formation which i cannot knock. I believe we be seeing attacking wing play into two forwards….wow dont you get excited………

    • Staffs Blue says:

      2-5-3? Blimey mark, 2 at the back and 3 up front? Now that’s an attacking formation if ever I saw one…. suicidal too lol

      • mark says:

        yeah staffs why not lol supposedly should have been 352 in my excitement….. usa play their 4321 yesterday? this might be another formation Clark might continue with……

        • Staffs Blue says:

          I’d prefer either 4-4-2 or 4-5-1.

          • mark says:

            well i couldn’t agree more staffs, obviously Clark will be aware especially at home matches he needs players to be much more better commanding and controlling of games. imo from the off at home we need to play high tempo attacking fair, and to dictate the game to return immediately maybe to reassure fans that we are moving in the right direction……..

          • dave mann says:

            the right direction mark when playing at home is to go towards the oppositions penalty box and try and win a game in the league after missing out on the last 18 attempts…..ime not particuly bothered how we do it but WINNING at home as got to become a regular trend this comming season. KRO.

          • Chris W says:

            I’m thinking maybe 3-4-3 at home with two wide men. Defensively we have height and pace so play higher up field and give the opposition something to think about.
            KRO+DNM

          • dave mann says:

            i think with the players hes got in 4-4-2 looks the more likely formation. KRO.

          • Staffs Blue says:

            Both formations can accommodate the wingers. Only difference is, with the 4-5-1, we forfeit a striker for an extra body in midfield.. maybe for away games. Works for me!

          • Chris W says:

            I like 4-5-1 away, it gives more cover but I would like to see a bit more adventure at home especially with the two wide men.
            KRO+DNM

    • Tony says:

      You got that wrong Mark those figures added together will be our gate.

  • Art says:

    Or another manager like Clark who publicly critised him.

    A better manager would have got the best out him-he was after all an ex-international player.

    • mark says:

      same dis-agreement different day Art, Clark actually played zig more than any other manager at blues fact, dressing HIM down absolutely fundamentally right by Clark, the worse training non-effort by a player on 65,000 joke to tbh.
      Now he earned 4 mil it bye bye blues, not even a attempt to look at the present contract offered him you take him as you want……

      • Mr Crosby says:

        See if we stay up this season without “the joke” in the team.

      • dave mann says:

        still youve got to love him mark, true legend. KRO.

      • Art says:

        -How many games didn’t he play over two years and how many games did Clark use him as sub.
        -You only have Clarks version about the event and regardless of the facts a manager in any business should never critise his staff publically….Clark was the problem not Zigic.
        -Do you think anyone in football has loyalty and do you think Clark would stay if he was offered a better position-as for not looking at his new contract-this is just hearsay and gosip.

        • mark says:

          the club have been in dialogue with these players how can that be hearsay and gossip Art? Contracts were offered both players by bcfc? your a little behind the times out there mate, must got servere sun stroke………..

          • Oldbluenose says:

            How do you know, !!. That ziggy, never replied, ?.

          • mark says:

            OBN dont you think it worse if he left it in hands of his agent?, maybe too much of shock to him not seeing too many zero’s at the end of 5. whether he did or didn’t tell’s me one thing he was not going to work his butt off for anything less

          • Oldbluenose says:

            IF he did leave it to his agent, ?. Surely that is what his agent is for, ?.

          • Staffs Blue says:

            But we all know what Zigic’s agent is like. Anyway, it’s all academic. He’s gone, we move on.

          • Oldbluenose says:

            Nuff sed,!!. chuckle.

          • Shirley Blue says:

            In the unlikely event I ever need an agent I will get the same one as Zigic because to negotiate the contract he got for him without a relegation clause was pure class.

          • Chris W says:

            Have to agree mark, he became idle both in training and on the pitch. I do recall LC stating that both had been offered contracts and only CB had phoned to tell him he had other offers.
            KRO+DNM

          • Art says:

            That’s the point I’m also trying to make -it’s just hearsay and gossip.

          • Art says:

            Not disputing this but it is very different to what you previously said Mark-“he didn’t even look at the present contract offered” -how do you know he didn’t consider the offer.Its hearsay and gossip Mark

        • Staffs Blue says:

          True, we only have Clark’s version… but what about Zigic’s version? Or his agent’s version? Nothing. There’s been silence on both fronts. Why?

          Common sense tells you that the club could only offer so much, but obviously it wasn’t enough for either Zigic or his agent. It’s not really rocket science?

          • Art says:

            Because unlike Clark you don’t raise these matter with the press for public consumption…it’s called professionalism!

            And yes he may have received an offer but it’s doesn’t mean to say he completely ignored it which is what Mark believes.

          • Staffs Blue says:

            I’ve not said that, obviously, any details will be kept private and rightly so… but I do believe Clark when he says both players received offers, which have been turned down. Why would he lie when Zigic or his agent could easily dispute it? They haven’t, which to me, says it’s true.

          • Oldbluenose says:

            Staffs mate;, I believe Art, was/is making the same point as me, NO ONE knows for sure that Ziggy, never replied, [ according to Mark ], !!.

          • Staffs Blue says:

            Fair enough!

      • bluenoserob says:

        when ziggy was fit he played every game in the prem and he played more games in our first season in this league (2011-2012) , not sure where your getting your facts from?

      • Steve says:

        you dont know what your talking about Mark.What happened in training on that day wasn’t Zigic’s fault.It was Clarks response to a player revolt.

        • Chris W says:

          Unless you are on the inside at BCFC I was shouted down when I mentioned a player revolt, I still believe there was one but it has never been made public.
          KRO+DNM

          • Steve says:

            If its the one when the first team were playing the kids chris. I know a couple of the kids that were playing that day. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

          • Chris W says:

            Not sure steve, but I don’t think it was as harmonious a camp as LC and co tried to make it out to be.
            KRO+DNM

          • Steve says:

            The first team were playing the kids in the formation clark wanted them to play on the following saturday. After 10 minutes the kids were 2 up. The senior players stopped and had a go at clark. Clark blamed it all on ZIggys performance but the senior players said it had nothing to do with Zig. That’s when clark critcised Zig in the press. Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

          • Chris W says:

            I heard it went deeper than that but it is a similar story that escalated.
            KRO+DNM

          • Steve says:

            We can’t all be wrong chris.
            Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device

          • Chris W says:

            No, I say “no smoke without fire” Steve. Just hope this new group buy into LC’s ideas and set the league alight.
            KRO+DNM

  • Big Al says:

    The fact Zig couldn’t be bothered to even respond to the contract offer leaves a sour taste in my mouth – we’ve just signed 9 players on his single wage so good riddance.

    • mark says:

      a big thank you where Big Al he couldn’t give a Sh£t…..££££££££

      • Big Al says:

        Indeed – Clark confirmed that Burke rang him and explained his position – i.e. he could earn much more elsewhere. Zig didn’t even want to incur the cost of making that phone call.

      • bluenoserob says:

        we have had many players leave us in the last three seasons , you could say none of them gave a S**t , why single out Ziggy , sure he could have formally turned down the offer (whatever it was) but what difference would that have made , he moves on and we move on , its always been the same.

      • Shirley Blue says:

        What about Ambrose, Lovenkrands and Mullins if you want to talk about some really serious wastes of money who didn’t give a sh@t. Why aren’t you having a go about them because they did absolutely nothing for us. Why because Clark got them in and he can do not wrong.

        • mark says:

          I believe out of the three mentioned Mullins redeemed himself but as far clark was possibly concerned it was a little too late and his age….the other two let themselves badly in a blue shirt……

          • dave mann says:

            they hardly wore a blue shirt did they? KRO.

          • mark says:

            It could have been a number of things Dave attitude, work ethic, loverman had some games to impress Clark but could only do it the u21 amborsia got it injured… But he had chances equally in u21. Ambrosia only appeared play better in the sun. As for the blue shirt probably mostly in u21 Dave lol

          • Chris W says:

            They came after Zig and never lived up to their achievements. I wouldn’t say Mullins redeemed himself, LC recalled him as he was out of options, he would have been the fall guy if we were relegated.
            KRO+DNM

    • dave mann says:

      now now Big Al dont mock the legend, no carling cup and league one football would have bee the norm without him imo. KRO.

      • Chris W says:

        Dave, I respect your love for the big guy, we all enjoyed our day at Wembley, but you have to admit that for the two seasons after that he became bone-back idle and Bolton apart rarely put in a full shift.
        KRO+DNM

        • dave mann says:

          yes i know but for those two seasons he was either injured or on the subs bench, not to many starts me think but he was zigic he helped win us our only REAL major honour ( 1963 league cup was voluntry ) and helped keep us in the championship……forget his wages cuz thats hat eveybody throws around , hes a legend weather you like it or not…..simples. KRO.

          • Chris W says:

            The League cup was introduced in 1960/61 and initially open to all teams in the football league who had been knocked out of the FA cup early.
            KRO+DNM

    • chudlt says:

      And Thanks for the good times.

  • Chris W says:

    Wish both players all the best but won’t join in the rants as I have said my bits about them both often.
    It would be nice o see Ibe back as he seemed to excite and with a little more experience could do an excellent job for the team, but even better to have one of our own.
    KRO+DNM

    • mark says:

      you are right, out with old in with the new, fresh start fresh season fresh players have i missed anything chris lol

      • dave mann says:

        fresh playing surface? .KRO.

        • mark says:

          thanks dave i forgot new playing surface….

          • dave mann says:

            its a good sign mark dont you think that were getting players on two year contracts and having a new pitch laid,,,theres some money flying around thats for sure. KRO.

          • mark says:

            all i want now is hunger fans wanting to watch our blue boys play, and whether win lose or draw lets enjoy ourselves, we not playing Div 1 lol, we got wolves, dogs, derby, forest, seaside trips what do they want……lets wear our hats and dress up, lets bring carnival to the stans….

          • dave mann says:

            if only mark but that will only apply to away games….i always where my peaky to all away games and dressed up like a kipper ( get it) for bolton…..away 10/10, home 3/10 fact. KRO.

          • Steve says:

            you can wear your clown suit.

          • mark says:

            Unfortunately you beat me too it lol

          • Shirley Blue says:

            Do they let you out at weekends?

          • Staffs Blue says:

            To be honest, I thought last year’s surface looked good.. certainly the best we’ve had for a number of years.

          • Shirley Blue says:

            Makes a change but I completely agree with you. The pitch was fine last season.

          • Staffs Blue says:

            Don’t worry, I’m sure it’s only a blip. ;)

          • Chris W says:

            Especially the second half of the season, it seemed to run true, very few bobbles and a nice lush green.
            KRO+DNM

        • Chris W says:

          I remember the last time we had a new playing surface, didn’t we have to rearrange a game because it was so bad it had to be relaid?… Hopefully they have paid to have it done professionally this time.
          KRO+DNM

          • Chas says:

            But it was relayed at Christmas, hardly the best time to relay a football pitch :-)

      • Chris W says:

        No mark, maybe just give LC a bit of slack for about 6/8/ games unless he carries on with his tinkering or playing right midfield at left back and tea lady in goal, second thoughts that might not be a bad idea… lol
        KRO+DNM

  • ian says:

    the best football i ever saw at st andrews was without a left winger,
    bob hatton played inside left and tracked back when defending,
    one single winger, gordon taylor hardly ever wanted to “cut inside”
    his one and only job was to run past the full back and cross the friggin ball into the box for latchford to head it,
    i see absolutely no reason why that can’t work in the modern game.
    this might have actually worked with ziggy, but we will never know because burky still hasn’t crossed a ball yet

    • fingles says:

      Exactly, his crosses have dried up because he is double marked. End of our options.As this world cup has shown, teams need to attack from any/every angle.

    • Chris W says:

      That was why they called the beautiful game simple. Then every one went to coaching school and learnt textbook football.
      KRO+DNM

  • dave mann says:

    blues have just turned down a bid from cardiff for adeyemi….things must be looking up.!!! KRO.

    • beegeeblueboy says:

      Cardiff will have offered b. all. Let’s see what the next bid will be.

      • Chris W says:

        Well done that man, maybe the tide is turning, still wonder where the money to keep us afloat is coming from?
        KRO+DNM

  • williammorgan says:

    Dare I say Chris eagles or beausejour

  • williammorgan says:

    Dare I say Chris eagles with a five year contract and a yearly update on the wage ,or beausejour

  • Oldburyblue says:

    I see no problem at looking at ALL players. Judge me on what I buy from the supermarket not what I look at whilst shopping. LC would not be doing his job properly if he had a closed mind.

  • river says:

    I would think clayton Donaldson will score more goals for us than zig ever did and have to agree with who ever said burke never really put any crosses into the box,just cut inside everytime burke was rubbish last season so not bothered about them going.i think clark has done very well in getting young and hungry players in already so feeling very optimistic for this campaign

    • dave mann says:

      as ive said before river i just hope donaldson doesent get the blues graveyard for strikers syndrome and hits the ground running and duffy does what burke failed to do many times and get crosses in…ime optemistic also so bringit on and bring on boro on 9th august….i will be there. KRO.

  • Gary says:

    Just reading about Cardiff coming in for Adeyemi I think it’s bad news because we know that the owners will make Clark sell if we get an half decent offer for him. In all honesty I don’t think he’s that good a player a bit overrated but I would rather blues kept him.

    • dave mann says:

      yeah me to but weve turned it down and with two year contracts being offered donaldson wages being given a litle leeway which means hes getting 5k a week plus goal bonuses and a new pitch being laid maybe we dont have to sell???? .KRO.

      • Staffs Blue says:

        I don’t think Clark will be pleased if he goes. He’s got high hopes for the lad. If it was an offer from the prem, maybe… but Cardiff? Why sell to our direct opposition. It was bad enough with Mutch.

        • beegeeblueboy says:

          We are not really in competition with Cardiff

        • Shirley Blue says:

          Cardiff our direct opposition!!!!- they will be looking at playoffs at worst and we will be fighting for survival again.

    • Staffs Blue says:

      He’s progressing okay. He played well last season until he got that injury. I don’t think he was ever completely fit after that, but put his body on the line to try to keep us up. Also, he’s been in a promotion winning team and a team fighting relegation. That’s good experience for a 22 year old.

      • Chris W says:

        I agree with his injury, he came back too soon but that was because A) we had no cover and B) he was quite effectual in midfield. It would be a senseless decision to sell to a club in the same league, unless they can double his salary, whereby we cannot compete.
        I think there is a clause that if a clubs agrees to the selling figure then that club (BCFC) cannot refuse the player permission to talk the purchasing club (Cardiff FC).
        KRO+DNM

        • Staffs Blue says:

          Maybe he could be easily replaced, but as we both said, why sell to a direct rival? Makes no sense. If the prem came calling, I suppose you couldn’t begrudge the lad.

  • Bluenose john says:

    I was St Andrews Monday, the pitch looked absolutely perfect
    ,lets hope we can play perfect football on it!! KRO

    • Shirley Blue says:

      I don’t remember there being any great problems with the pitch last season but I am sure it’s money well spent.

  • Gary says:

    Adeyemi is an average player he’s not quality none of our players are quality it just goes to show how low blues have become when fans are calling him quality I think our fans have become a bit deluded. Plus I can’t see it being 7million the owners would sell the whole squad if they were offered 7 million.

    • Mr Crosby says:

      He was the best of a mediocre bunch. Yes they will sell him it’s the usual turn down the first offer as a means it upping the price.

    • mark says:

      I would let him go for 8mil….

      • dave mann says:

        hes propably worth 2.5million tops no more, KRO.

        • mark says:

          Dave that would appear to be decent figure for him at the moment. If he get another 46 games under his belt and is the driving force for us this coming season, I bet you can double or treble that figure IMO of course.

  • bluenoserob says:

    while all would agree that Burke was poor last season , i cant go along with the idea that he wasnt any good at all , am i wrong in thinking that in his first season he led the division in combined goals and assists, i think at his best he was the best player we have had since we were relegated ..

    • Shirley Blue says:

      Didn’t Burke get voted into the PFA Championship team at the end of the Chris Hughton season ie voted by his fellow professionals as the best player in his position in the division. I think he got into double figures in terms go goals as well. He hasn’t been anything like as good under Clarke but then again Messi and Ronaldo would look average with him as manager.

      • Art says:

        Yes he did but Clark could never get the best out him!

        • Staffs Blue says:

          Sorry Art, I have to disagree with that. No matter what tactics or formation (except 3-5-2) Burke was always on the right wing. All he had to do was beat the defender and cross the ball. Most of the time, he couldn’t do that. I can’t see how that has anything to do with the manager

          • Art says:

            I just think Clark has problems in managing the more experienced players-Burke being one of them.Clark is better suited to managing the kids and I think he could do a good job thére or he’d make a good assistant manager.

          • Staffs Blue says:

            And maybe the kids have better attitudes than the ‘been-there-done-that’ older players. Maybe we’ll find out in future. This season will answer a lot of questions re Clark methinks.

          • Chris W says:

            Make or break time Staffs.
            KRO+DNM

          • Staffs Blue says:

            I have to agree Chris. Although I like the guy a lot, 3 seasons is long enough to be a success.

          • Chris W says:

            I like him Staffs, but he has made some fundamental mistakes, which he has failed to admit too or address in the past.
            Hopefully he has learnt and can get the very best from the new boys and look to a comfortable mid table by christmas.
            It will have to be the very best as these young guns have moved up a division in most cases, but they all have a point to prove.
            KRO+DNM

          • mark says:

            Let’s not forget the championship is getting fuller with ex- premiership teams, who will have better financial muscle than us. If Clark does slight better than last season he would have done a extremely excellent job well under a extremely tight financial budget….if Clark manages us further up the table with these players well what can I say……kro

          • Chris W says:

            One reason I’m not setting my hopes too high this season. I’m thinking we should be ok from relegation. Looking at Yeovil last season they kept virtually the same squad that got them promoted and though they battled just didn’t have the quality to keep them out the bottom three.
            LC seems to have the knowledge but I feel he lacks faith in his own ability, hence the constant changing when it goes wrong.
            Hopefully the team will hit the ground running and that will breed confidence all round.
            Keep out the bottom three and hope for safety early then anything above that will be a bonus.
            KRO+DNM

          • Chris W says:

            Most of the time he was so predictable, everytime he came down the wing he insisted on trying to cut inside and go for glory, admittedly he scored some goals but his main job was to get to the by-line and whip it over. How many times did he fail to beat the first man.
            KRO+DNM

          • Staffs Blue says:

            A damn sight more than a winger should.

  • bluenoserob says:

    most everyone is ripping into ziggy , what about Lovenkrands we were paying him a c**p load of money for nothing and he wasnt the only one, all those that are saying that the last three years of suffering are worth it cos of us winning the cup and living a dream , well i say without ziggy there would have been no cup win ,the ziggy haters have short memories.

    • Tony says:

      Couldnt agree more Rob without Ziggy there would have been nothing ,people need to remember what he did to West Ham, Villa ,and Arsenal.
      He goes with my thanks and appreciation.

    • Chas says:

      There aren’t a lot ripping into Zigic s I can see, Rob, it is mainly Mark with his silly fixation on trying to prove Clark is something wonderful. Zigic will always be a legend for us.

    • Chris W says:

      I remember a legend back in 1963, Ken Leek played 104 games and scored 49 goals compared to Zigic, 128 games and 32 goals.
      After the Arsenal game and up to the Bolton game what did this so called legend do?
      He was idle in training hence LC’s public humiliation and he rarely performed when selected.
      I liked the guy but as a legend I have known better who have given more to the club.
      KRO+DNM

      • mark says:

        Now tf is legend……

        • Chris W says:

          back in the late 60’s early 70′ we had many a legend, Barry Bridges superb overhead goal v Arsenal, TF, Bob Latchford.
          We have had some exciting players and some good teams but never seemed to get the complete package at the same time.
          KRO+DNM

      • Geoff S says:

        I never saw Ken Leek play for Blues as my first trip to St Andrew’s was not until 1967. However, I have heard good things about him and his goals-to-games ratio is outstanding.

        Nikola Zigic is obviously a hero to thousands upon thousands of Blues fans as he helped dump the vile out of the League Cup and also scored in the final when Blues went to lift that trophy so fair enough.

        “Assists” are seen as a much bigger deal now than in years gone by but, apart from the obvious (Trevor Francis, Bob Latchford, etc), how about the respective goals-to-games ratios of a few Blues strikers from the 1960s onwards?

        I am thinking of Tony Evans (28 goals in 66 games played), Mikael Forssell (17 in 36), Paul Furlong (50 in 131), Mick Harford (33 in 109),Bob Hatton (73 in 212) and the marvellous Frank Worthington (33 in 84).

        Barry Bridges, Jimmy Greenhoff and Phil Summerill are 3 more who also had better goals-to-games ratios than NZ (and there maybe more as my list was not intended to be exhaustive) but perhaps a price cannot be put on playing a big hand in turning over the B6ers on the way to helping the club to win meaningful silverware…Who knows?

        • Chris W says:

          Totally agree with your forwards, we have had some great names leading the line, Fred Pickering (27 in 74), Phil Summerhill was one of the unsung heros but was leading scorer on at least two occasions in the 70’s.
          I think what made the 63 win more enjoyable was the fact we beat the Vile to lift the cup who won the first ever final in 1961.
          KRO+DNM

          • Geoff S says:

            I don’t know how I managed to forget Fred Pickering – a really good, traditional centre-forward.

            Geoff Vowden and the late Johnnie Vincent also had better goals-to-games ratios for Blues than Kenny Burns, although he played a lot of his games in Blues’ back-four.

  • williammorgan says:

    We have players that can do a job on the wings on injuries ,liam trotta would be a good signing as competition for adeyemi in central midfield

    • dave mann says:

      they put the men to shame to be honest williammorgan, top of the wsl, top of the continental cup, champions league semi finalists……..there a million miles ahead of the mens team in real terms…they make me very proud. KRO.

  • williammorgan says:

    Blues ladies are simply the best yet the gates are not telling us that …time to organise school trips to watch blues great women’s side ,for over 13 girls keep right on


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